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迷迷糊糊的疱疹系列研究----先从感叹开始 [复制链接]

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都是一期甚至还在老鼠身上做实验的要到出药上市你们知道要多久吗?再说了就算勉强挤到三期实验失败的几率也是非常的大。
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回复:迷迷糊糊的疱疹系列研究----先从感叹开始

这个老美说的好。  库伦原来每一年接受大药厂8万美元的资助  连续未来三年。  昨天他们也对库伦的消息展开了争论, 我觉得这个人说的觉有道理, 我复制过来你们看看

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Most of what is posted about Dr. Cullen is "old news" and has been out there for some time. I don't see what the big reaction is here. He and Dr. Bloom have gone to the NIH, and are expecting an answer, on their grant this month. If they are successful, it is likely they will move forward rather nicely. Also, Cullen must not be too far off course as he has a pharmaceutical company giving him 80k per year for the next 3 years.

Is herpes ever cured or completely silenced in the human body? YES. It is a virus fairly similar to chickenpox that resurfaces years later in the form of the Shingles. They have a therapeutic vaccine for this that works and prevents, in most people recurrences. This is likely to happen for herpes in the next 5 years whether anyone believes in it or not. Will the virus ever be rid from the body? I doubt this but our bodies harbor antibodies to all kinds of shit, and in most cases, handles the viruses rather nicely on it's own. The vaccine that Agenus has seems to completely clear the virus from mice and may do that very thing in humans. Yes, I will agree that it makes me question why the hell it has now sat on the shelf for 2 years now but it has... Let's face it, the drug companies are no different than the oil companies, WalMart or any other profit seeking entity. They are in it to maximize profits for their shareholders. That is their mandate - saving humanity is not part of the deal...
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回复:迷迷糊糊的疱疹系列研究----先从感叹开始

没什么即使库伦或者布鲁姆都不行, 这不又冒出一个新的科学家也研制出了注射疫苗不复发的方法,  威廉, 哈佛特,  一个疫苗。  一型的。  大家不要气馁。  罗马不是一天建成的。  Rome is not built in one day, 这句话是每一个懂英文的人必知道的话吧, 就是这个道理。  大家不要气馁, 坚信治愈一定会实现!!

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A study by a Montanan State University researcher suggests a new avenue for developing a vaccine against genital herpes and other diseases cause by herpes simplex viruses. In a study published earlier this year in the Virology Journal, MSU virologist William Halford showed that mice vaccinated with a live, genetically modified herpes simplex virus type1 (HSV 1) showed no signs of disease 30 days after being exposed to a particularly lethal "wild type" strain of the virus. A study by a Montana State University researcher suggest a new avenue for developing a vaccine against genital herpes and other diseases caused by herpes simplex viruses.

In a study published earlier this year in the Virology Journal, MSU virologist William Halford showed that mice vaccinated with a live, genetically-modified herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV-1) showed no signs of disease 30 days after being exposed to a particularly lethal “wild-type” strain of the virus. In contrast, a second group of mice that received a more conventional vaccine died within six days of being exposed to the same “wild-type” strain. “We have a clear roadmap for producing an effective live vaccine against genital herpes,” said Halford, who works in MSU’s Department of Veterinary Molecular Biology. “Although my studies were performed with HSV-1, the implications for HSV-2-induced genital herpes are clear. Overall the two viruses are about 99 percent genetically identical.”

An estimated 55 million Americans carry herpes simplex virus type 2 (HSV-2), which causes genital herpes. Infection is life-long. Approximately 5 percent of those with genital herpes – 2 million to 3 million Americans – suffer outbreaks one to four times annually. A vaccine offering life-long protection does not exist. The key to Halford’s research was understanding how the herpes simplex virus overcame the body’s natural defenses. A cell infected with the herpes simplex virus sends a warning to neighboring cells. This warning — an interferon response — causes neighboring cells to enter “an anti-viral state” akin to putting on a suit of armor, Halford said. However, herpes produces a protein, ICP0, that tricks every infected cell into destroying its own armor. Once the cell’s armor is gone, the virus can propagate itself and spread to other cells, which are in turn tricked into lowering their defenses. In his research, Halford created a vaccine where the genetic instructions that make ICP0 were disrupted. Without instructions on how to do its clever ICP0 trick, the virus can still establish an infection in animals, but the spread of the virus is stopped long before disease can occur.

“In short, we can disarm the virus such that it is absolutely unable to cause disease, but is still remarkably potent as a vaccine,” Halford said. In a human vaccine, the genetic instructions for ICP0 would actually be removed, creating an “attenuated,” or weakened virus. The rest of the herpes simplex virus’ genetic code would remain intact. Measles, mumps, rubella, polio and yellow fever vaccines are all made from attenuated viruses. Research in recent decades has focused on subunit vaccines, which are made from one piece of a virus (a protein subunit). Subunit vaccines are safer than attenuated virus vaccines because the subunit cannot replicate or cause disease. However, subunit vaccines have proven ineffective in protecting people against persistent infections like genital herpes and AIDS, Halford said. “From a theoretical standpoint, subunit vaccines are poor mimics of a natural virus infection,” Halford said. “There’s not enough there for our immune systems to build a protective response against the actual virus.” Halford, 38, is aware that his approach is controversial. “This is where I’m young enough that I don’t know how long it can take to swing popular opinion among scientists and clinicians,” he said. “I would hope that in five to six years the scientific community would be willing to seriously consider these proposals.” Halford hopes to find a commercial partner or secure government funding to advance his research toward a human vaccine. “I’d like to take this concept from the chalkboard to the clinics,” he said.
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回复:迷迷糊糊的疱疹系列研究----先从感叹开始

坚持我是一定坚持的,毕竟除了害怕老婆传染别的一起都很正常,不过这个比较不是三五年的事,
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谁可以看好这病我把命都给他处置!
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呵呵现在发觉美国科学家和中国的骗人医院差不多哈,都是为了钱。研究不出来就说没钱,哈哈和一些骗子医院的大道理一样你属于百分之十所以医不好。迷糊姐我不是消极,但是我觉得要是能出解药起码的等到我55岁左右,我现在25
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回复: 迷迷糊糊的疱疹系列研究----先从感叹开始

迷糊姐你比我好的多啊 ,至少你有孩子了,也有钱。而我呢就一份正式工作嗨想想真想死了算了!从小都不服输的我 都快被它折磨死了!!!!我希望中国所有的PZ战友都能一起无论是用什么方式向中国研究部门发起求救信号希望有 能力的人能快点想出办法!!!!!!!!!!!!!!谁看好我的病我的命就交给他了。
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夸张了吧
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回复:迷迷糊糊的疱疹系列研究----先从感叹开始

理解你们的痛苦, 人无远虑必有近忧, 其实每一个人都有每一个人的难言之隐。  

你们想自救, 但我想问问你们每一位这里的人。  你们中有几位真像我那样, 动起笔给相关部门写信?  估计大家还是没有迷糊过去那样被病痛折磨的痛苦, 否则你们就会去做了, 根本不用别人去带领。  我是觉得如果每一个人一封信给相关的部门, 那没有不重视的, 关键是根本没有几个人动手写, 怎么可能唤醒卫生部的老爷们?  

关于治愈的事情, 我是觉得不可以失去希望, 因为毕竟带状疱疹病毒的疫苗都成功了, 这是一个很好的再生平台, 我想不会等太长时间, 一定会有个突破性的进展。  我们不是行内人, 我们不知研究的内情还有大趋势和整体的一个状况, 作为局外人我们只能听消息, 看热闹, 但是我觉得行内的人肯定略知一二, 如果网站里面有此行内的相关人员, 我觉得你们不妨出来说句话。  

对于大家的失望情绪, 我很理解, 因为我也很失望, 但是大家不要过于负面。  现在是黎明前的黑暗, 大家都不知光明在哪里, 但一旦找到了那就是一瞬间的事情。  千万不要失去有尊严生活下去的勇气。  你们想一想美国人六千万人口都是二型, 他们照吃, 照玩, 照结婚。  关键是意识问题。 我们还是要跳出保守意识。  迷糊说的轻松, 其实迷糊本人做起来也有困难。  但是我经常告诉自己, 一定要活在正面中, 相信人间有真情!!!

关于是否教授骗钱我倒觉得不太会, 因为美国的大学研究室都是独立的, 经费要自己筹集, 他们缺少经费是正常的, 有很多钱才是不正常的。 我以前的帖子都详述了美国大学的研究机构的运作方式, 你们再回看一下, 可以至少不会认为他们是在骗钱。 因为几期的实验确实要花费大量的经费, 这真是真的。  当然, 也不能否定他们借此圈钱的可能。  

爱情不会少的, 面包会有的, 一切都会好起来

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回复:迷迷糊糊的疱疹系列研究----先从感叹开始

看到这个北京国阳医院, 我觉得这所医院骗人骗到国外去了。  今天揭发一下。  大家不要上当!

他们在美国的疱疹网上也做宣传, 他们竟然把自己的名字翻译成  英文的   北京医院  国家阳 !!  英语是  beijing hospital, national yang.     许多老美以为是北京医院竟然上当。   这所医院实在太不厚道, 骗钱骗到美国去了。  迷糊实在看不过眼!!

今天也戳穿下。  做生意不可以做成这么没有良心和诚信!!

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